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Staff
photo/Ian Gleadle
The topic of the June 4 public hearing was whether
to call for a public vote on a city ball field
project.
The topic of the June 4 public hearing
was whether to call for a public vote
on a $6,588,000 city ball field project, whose
final cost is not yet firm. The project
entails reconfiguring the current field
layout; replacing the grass with synthetic
turf; adding lights, new scoreboards,
baseball
dugouts, landscaping, public art, a new
entry feature, a basketball court, playground
and walking loop. The city may need to
borrow $2.5 million to help pay for the
undertaking.
Twenty-eight speakers testified during
the hearing. Five were Parks and Recreation
Commissioners; several were coaches; one,
a soccer league official; two, affiliated
with organizations working to help secure
funding for the endeavor. Some were parents
of children who use or used the fields,
some lived within the City of Woodinville,
some did not.
Four spoke in favor of a public advisory
vote on the project; 24 opposed such a
vote. In the end, council voted 4-3 to
proceed with the sports field project as
planned (without a public advisory vote).
Councilmembers Don Brocha, Gina Leonard,
Scott Hageman and Mayor Cathy VonWald voted
to proceed with the project as planned.
Councilmembers Mike Roskind, Chuck Price
and Deputy Mayor Hank Stecker voted against
the measure.
Get on with it
Some of the reasons given for carrying
on with the sports field project without
a public vote were these: According to
a questionnaire put out by Chamber Director
John Erdman, no one in the Woodinville
Chamber of Commerce was against the project,
he said.
Karen Steed said that an advisory vote
could delay a project that encourages healthy
youth and adult activities. Council members
who were opposed to the project were out
of touch with the community.
These are essential services, said Karen
Hergert. The project has been in the works
for seven years. The city has money for
both roads and the civic campus enhancement.
Just do it.
As a Parks Commissioner, Tom Anderson
said he felt stymied by the City Council.
Why should people have to drive out of
or through Woodinville to get to ball fields?
Parks Commission Chair Bob Vogt said historic
information about money spent on the civic
campus is out of context and not relevant.
He said the plan will double the use of
the fields, and there was a well-thought-out
financial plan for the project.
Parks Commissioner Norm Maddex said the
CIP (Capital Improvement Plan) process
was fundamentally sound. It identified
funding sources for the project and has
already been approved by the council. He
is concerned that treating this project
differently from other CIP projects – by
requiring a public vote for it – would
set a precedent.
Youth sports coach Steve Olson said there
was talk about how much the fields renovation
would cost but no mention of the money
the project would bring to the city when
kids and parents shopped or went out to
eat after a game.
Phyllis Keller said an advisory vote was
unnecessary. How many times did the public
have to advise the City Council of its
wishes? The public already gave its opinions
on the project. Stop discussing it and
get on with it.
Woodinville resident and Northshore Youth
Soccer Association President Debra Sternagel
said this project was about more than ballgames.
It was about a place for the community
to gather. It was about economic benefits
the fields could bring to the city. It
was about choosing to be environmentally
responsible by using synthetic turf and
no longer using fertilizers.
Michael Tanksley sent a letter stating
the Hollywood Hill Homeowners Association
approved the project. Active recreation
facilities were in short supply. This project
was an investment in the public’s
future well being.
Parks Commissioner Kim Nunes said much
ado had been made about the project, but
no one had registered any complaint about
it. Opposing council members had their
heels dug in the sand.
How did the city get to this point? asked
Chris Browne. There was debate on the topic.
There was a vote. There was a decision
made.
Eric Campbell of CamWest Development Inc.,
the firm proposing a mixed-use development
for the downtown Canterbury Square property,
said his company would be spending hundreds
of thousands of dollars on Parks mitigation
fees. He very much supported the project.
This amenity would make people want to
live downtown.
Craig Lange said the new fields would
add to the quality of life. Time was money
and a public vote could cause the project
to be delayed.
Coach Marty Wick said the City of Woodinville
had poor sports fields. They didn’t
even come close to what other cities had.
The city needed more fields. Without them,
council would be encouraging an Xbox generation.
Jorge Barrera said the roads that the
city had were sufficient for its 10,000
citizens. There are 63,000 folks who use
Woodinville parks. Don’t alienate
those who live outside city limits. They
spent money in town.
Parks Commissioner Liz Aspen said she
supported the project because of what she
knew about it. There was adequate public
outreach. Maybe since 2000, one person
was against the expenditure.
Denice Wallick said there was overwhelming
acceptance of the project. As a parent
and soccer coach, she spent a lot of time
driving kids to other places to practice.
Steve VanTill didn’t understand
the 11th-hour call for a public vote. Such
a vote should have been called last year
or the year before or the year before.
Lucinda Brezak said she spent a lot of
time carpooling to her four children’s
sports games. She spent money on food and
lodging at these places, money that could
be spent in Woodinville.
Andrew Hay, chair of the field project’s
capital campaign, called the public hearing
a political maneuver to halt the project,
nothing more than a political temper tantrum.
Council should already understand these
issues, he said.
What is council afraid of?
Al Taylor’s PowerPoint presentation
showed amounts of money put toward the
civic campus over the years: $6.6 million
for the ball field proposal, $3.9 million
to acquire the corner properties along
131st and 175th, $3.4 million for community
center upgrades. He said that $7.5 million
was spent to buy the Sorenson property
after voters rejected an initiative to
buy it. The city spent $5.45 on construction
of City Hall. There were also staff estimated
annual community center operational expenses
of $278,034.
He thought the city was channeling monies
from admission taxes, real estate excise
taxes, and builder impact fees exclusively
for Parks. State code allows those monies
to be used for a wider variety of uses,
including emergency preparedness infrastructure,
road and sidewalk improvements, and parks,
he said.
He hasn’t found anyone who believed
that current city project spending was
rational and consistent with neighborhood
priorities. He probably spoke with over
200 citizens. He didn’t think the
city actually heard from that many people
about the project.
If all users funded the project proportionately,
Woodinville residents would be paying 15
percent of project costs and users outside
the city would be paying 85 percent. Taylor
called for a public vote for what he called “discretionary
park spending.”
Steve Yarbroff wanted more information.
The city estimated field costs would come
in at $6.5 million. Community center upgrades
would run $3.5 million. Who was going to
pay for all of this? What else could be
accomplished if the project were scaled
back or enhanced? The Woodinville-Duvall
Road was in bad shape. The city was responsible
to all of its citizens.
What could Woodinville afford to do? Could
it keep up its infrastructure and put money
into the fields and the Community Center?
He wanted a chance to have the facts.
Daryl Heinzerling, father of five, said
the value of the fields was almost incalculable.
Better fields would be fabulous for the
community, but costs have gone up. Initially,
the project was going to be $1.8 million.
Now it’s estimated at $6.5 million.
He wondered how many of the city’s
public outreach meetings were held after
the estimated costs went up. He’d
relish the time to have costs and impacts
presented more fully.
Dick Vermeulen asked the council what
it was afraid of. If people want it, they’d
vote for it, he said.
Council consideration
Councilmember Roskind said if the city
was going to spend $6.6 million, it needed
to hold a community vote. He said the city
had fields that worked. Was the investment
worth it? Did the city really need that
level of investment? Were there other things
the city needed more?
He was OK with the expenditure if there
was a community consensus, but he wasn’t
convinced there was overwhelming support
for the project. The city wasn’t
buying more land with all this money: It
was just putting down fancy carpet. The
city was spending all its Parks money on
(the Community Center and fields). The
community had the right to weigh in on
this.
Councilmember Chuck Price said if the
city were to borrow $2.5 million for the
fields project, it had to include interest
payments of $180,000 per year for 20 years
in the overall cost. That wasn’t
done. He thought the fields project would
take money away from purchasing property
for other neighborhood parks. Citizens
should know that.
Price thought close to 50 percent of those
who testified lived outside the city. That
was a good example of the kind of outreach
the city has had for the project. He said
the project was in controversy for years.
That’s why the council was where
it was today. He liked the project. He
didn’t like that 10,000 city residents
should have to pay for a park that would
be used by 63,000 people. He wanted to
share the costs more. This was a regional
facility, he said.
Councilmember Gina Leonard said that she
was very frustrated having to sit and listen
to this discussion again. She didn’t
intend to reiterate why she supported the
field project. Those who gave public testimony
spoke eloquently about it. In November
and December last year, the three opponents
of the plan voted to fund it. Either they
want to take their vote back, or they didn’t
understand what they were voting for, she
said.
Councilmember Don Brocha said things take
so long in government because of democracy:
Everyone has a say, and they have it multiple
times. That said, the council has been
through all of this. They have done their
due diligence. The project had citizen
input for seven years. The council was
just letting the minority have another
go at the apple. Good council members move
on. If they’re not really interested
in doing their council job, they come back
and revisit their losses over and over
again, he said.
Brocha came up with a David-Letterman-like
list of six reasons why the city should
carry on with the field project now. (6)
It was funded by Park Impact Fees and REET
(real estate excise tax). Growth would
be paying for growth. (5) The city had
enough money for all the parks and roads
and surfacewater projects it had on its
books. (4) The project would make the fields
usable year round, usable by more ages,
and usable longer each day (due to the
field lighting). (3) The project was endorsed
by people experienced with making these
kinds of decisions: Kathy Lambert, Roger
Goodman, and Mark Ericks, and Jean Fowler.
(2) The project was thoroughly examined
and approved by the (Parks Commission).
(1) It was the heart of Woodinville and
part of the small-town feeling that residents
were trying to preserve.
He said it was mentioned that public testimony
did not indicate overwhelming support.
Nor did it indicate overwhelming opposition,
he said.
Roskind responded to Leonard’s comments
by saying that last year, he asked to have
the Parks projects broken out from the
rest of the projects that council was considering,
in order to have a line-item veto. He would
have voted against the projects if they
were allowed to debate the items individually.
They were not.
Roskind said other city projects were
experiencing cost overruns around 20 percent.
The city didn’t know the true costs
for the sports fields. Twenty percent overruns
for this project represented $1.2 million.
That’s a lot of money, he said. It
was not clear how overruns would affect
the budget. He also said quite a few that
spoke in favor of the project were architects
of the plan and opposed to sending it to
a vote. He said that Lambert’s or
Goodman’s endorsement of the project
meant they were endorsing the city’s
spending of city money. Of course they’d
endorse that. He wasn’t convinced
the community wanted to spend its money
this way.
Councilman Scott Hageman said yes, the
price tag had gone up. Doesn’t it
always? It would continue to go up as council
talked and talked and talked about it.
He was elected to take some leadership
and make some decisions. It was a wonderful
opportunity for the city to reinforce its
sense of community. Fields would only enhance
the city. By improving the fields, the
city was protecting its assets, increasing
its livability. He wanted Woodinville children
to be able to play here and not be ferried
around to ball games. There were so many
good things about this project. If the
city continued to prolong the process,
it was going to have paralysis through
analysis and the price would keep going
up.
Deputy Mayor Hank Stecker said the night’s
discussion was about a nonbinding advisory
vote on the sports field project. Despite
what some citizens might say, not a single
council member supported selling the fields
to put up apartments. This discussion was
not about whether or not to have sports
fields. The fields were going to be there.
It was about how much money the city put
into them. He was not trying to convince
anyone whether to have fields or not have
fields. His eight-year-old son played Northshore
soccer He played Little League. Stecker
coached. This discussion was about whether
or not to have a vote for the citizens
on how their money was spent on a regional
facility. The service area has 63,000 people.
Woodinville has 3,500 households.
He thought it was interesting that the
Chamber of Commerce endorsed an unmanned
sewage plant just outside the city, that
it supported higher density for the city,
but that it didn’t support citizens
having a vote on whether the sports field
project was a good use of their money.
He said Woodinville was not Redmond or
Bothell. These were high expenditures for
so small a town. By the time it was done,
the entire civic campus could end up costing
the city $50 million. Don’t be fooled.
It was a lot of money. Woodinville had
a very small downtown area. There were
tradeoffs. No one was taking away the fields.
It was about how much the city spent at
one time and who kicked in for these expenditures.
Citizens had a right to vote. It was about
time they had that chance.
Leonard said that somebody kept calling
this a regional facility. Two soccer fields
and four reconfigured ball fields didn’t
make a regional facility. It was a community
facility. She also had a problem discounting
comments by out-of-city residents. Price
said he supported those who voted for him
yet he has been known to fund and support
other out-of-city residents’ issues.
She said a public vote would be legitimate
if it were legally required, if the project
were to be funded with increased property
taxes, or if there was a public outcry
for a vote. There were no legal requirements
to hold a vote, property taxes would not
be increased to pay for the project, and
there was no public outcry.
Mayor VonWald said citizens could weigh
in annually on capital improvement projects.
Where has everyone been who’s been
against this project, she asked. The reason
it took so long to get the project this
far was that council repeatedly asked the
Parks Commission to refine the plan. She
had no doubt a public vote would be an
affirmative vote at this time, but it would
be a waste of time.
It was not an incomplete plan, she said.
It was part of the Downtown Master Plan,
the Civic Center Master Plan and the Parks
and Recreation Open Space Plan. Maybe the
council members who opposed this project
should read those plans, she said.
VonWald also said that the capital improvement
projects that recently had $3 million in
overruns were roads projects. Sixty-four
percent of the Capital Improvement Plan
was dedicated to roads and improving transportation.
To say that the city was not dealing with
its roads and infrastructure was a fallacy.
Stecker said anyone who drove around Woodinville
knew the city was not taking care of its
infrastructure.
When the vote to proceed with the sports
field project passed 4-3, the audience
applauded.
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